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Experts by experience as role models in biomedical education

Interview with Elza van Deel, Assistant professor
How do you make biomedical education more inclusive and relevant? Assistant professor Elza van Deel found a unique way: bringing in successful biomedical scientists into the classroom who live with a medical condition. Students don’t just learn from textbooks, they hear directly from experts who also live these experiences. In this interview, she tells us more about this impactful approach: “One day, I shared my own experience with my students, and their whole perspective shifted - ‘If you can do it, maybe I’ll be okay too.’ That moment showed me the power of representation.”

Photo by: Van Harte Gefotografeerd

Elza, what made you introduce role models into your teaching?
“Well, in our medical pathophysiology course, we teach students about the human body and what happens when it gets sick. However, the course is taught by teachers that are themselves completely healthy. And I found it was a missed opportunity.

I wanted to introduce role models. People who inspire. And since many students aspire to become scientists, I invited successful biomedical researchers to share their journeys. But these scientists also live with a medical condition themselves. They don’t just talk about their diagnosis, they share their career paths, challenges, and achievements.

Learning from a textbook is one thing, but hearing directly from someone who experiences a condition makes it real. For students with a condition, it’s empowering to see someone like them thriving in science. And for those without one, it challenges assumptions, showing that a medical condition doesn’t define someone’s abilities or limit their success.”

Was it difficult to find scientists willing to participate?
“At first, yes. A medical condition isn’t something you list on your CV, so I had to reach out personally. But I found that once I explained the purpose, many scientists were eager to participate. What really helped was showing them that they weren’t being invited because of their condition. They were invited because of their expertise, with their condition adding valuable lived experience.”

What types of scientists have shared their personal and professional journeys in your classes?
“We have role models with kidney disease who have undergone transplants, scientists with mental health conditions like anorexia or anxiety disorders, a researcher in a wheelchair. Others have cardiovascular disease or conditions like long COVID or malaria.

Their experiences align with different physiological topics, which makes them a natural fit for the curriculum. When we discuss the heart, kidneys, the brain, or immunity, students aren’t just learning abstract concepts. They hear directly from someone living with that condition.”

This project seems deeply personal to you. Why is that?
“I am one of the role models myself. For years, I was hesitant to talk about my condition because of stigma and assumptions. But when I became a teacher and mentor, I realized many of my students had similar conditions and were ashamed of it or worried it would hold them back.

One day, I started sharing my own experience with my students. Their entire expression changed. It was as if they suddenly saw a different future for themselves: ‘If you can do it, maybe I’ll be okay too.’ That moment showed me how powerful representation can be.

Being open about my condition doesn’t make me weaker. It makes me a role model. When I first shared my story to a group of students, it was a bit scary, but it turned out to be the best lesson I’ve ever given.

So, a medical condition doesn’t define who you are; it’s something you learn to navigate. The more we talk about it, the more we break down stigma. And that’s exactly what this project is about.”

Portrait of Elza van Deel (photo by: Van Harte Gefotografeerd)

That is very inspiring. Thank you so much for sharing that. What impact do you hope this project will have?
“I hope it changes the way we teach. In (bio)medical education, we often talk about patients rather than with them, reducing them to case studies. But they are not just subjects of study: they are people with knowledge and experiences that enrich education in ways textbooks never could.

I want this to become the norm, not the exception. In a few years, I hope I’m no longer seen as ‘the professor who does something unusual by inviting patients into class’ - but that teaching by patients is a standard practice across faculties.”

And how do your students respond to these lectures?
“Well, very positively! About 83% of students say it adds value to their learning. They tell me it helps them truly understand symptoms and what they mean for a person’s daily life. One student put it beautifully: “It’s good to see a patient not just as a disease, but as a person.”

You’re also measuring the impact of this approach through the SoTL grant. What do you hope to find?
“We want to see if this project actually shifts students’ perceptions. Ultimately, the goal is to empower students by reducing stigma and stimulating a more inclusive mindset in future scientists and healthcare professionals. Also, this grant provides essential support: coaching, practical guidance, and resources that make it feasible.
 
Last year I received a Comenius Teaching fellowship to start this role model education. Even with that support, it remains a challenge. SoTL has given me the tools to investigate and further improve the impact of this education for my students.”

What keeps you motivated to push this project forward?
“If you do something close to your heart, like this project is for me, then you have the greatest job in the world. It doesn’t feel like work - it’s my passion."

And what’s next, Elza?
“We’re launching a working group to expand patient involvement in education. If other teachers want to implement this approach but don’t know where to start, I’d love to help. And if you’re a scientist or medical professional with a physical or mental condition who wants to be a role model, please reach out - we’re always looking for inspiring people to join!”

If you’re interested in getting involved or want to learn more, contact Elza van Deel at e.d.vandeel@amsterdamumc.nl.

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